In this post:
the Madoff documentary, Elon finally dials it back, and two nutjob comics shout at one another.
Madoff (Netflix, 2023)
Earlier this month, Netflix released a mini-series about Bernie Madoff's record-setting Ponzi scam. I was initially unimpressed since it
starts out with a lot of annoying documentary tropes:
- "You think you know what happened, but you don't really know what happened." (Paraphrasing)
- "The news story was about people losing money, but the real story is about the man." (Also paraphrasing)
- Lots of slow-motion re-enactments, often with cheesy grain filters to tell you it's a flashback to 1960-whatever.
Tropeyness doesn't make the series unwatchable, but the cookie-cutterness basically says, "
hey, we're not going to get too cerebral in this documentary and there will be a lot of people speculating about the dude's motives and personality".
While these tropes are used throughout the documentary, the material does get better. So
here's a synopsis of the high points with a little commentary.
The cookie-cutter intro was a groaner and I almost hit the power button when the show decided to start at the very beginning (of Madoff, not the Ponzi). As I was trying to dig the remote out of the vein of cheez-its between my Love Sac and couch (dangerously close to the Code Red Big Gulp, I might add), the deep flashback justified itself.
Madoff's first career gig was running a tiny OTC trading shop with an unregistered investment office for his father-in-law's clients. The kicker: the investment fund was wiped out in a market crash and he had to borrow his way out.
The narration fast-forwards from this prelude/precedent story to
suddenly it's the 80s and Bernie runs a market making firm in NYC. I like that they didn't dwell too much on irrelevant stuff, but it made me curious how he went from penny stonks to Manhattan. They could have at least put in a trading montage (get it?).
For those unfamiliar with the saga (e.g. me),
Madoff ran a market maker (a core institution of Wall Street) that gained a foothold in the industry by being an early adopter of computerized trading. According to the documentary, his firm remaining open to trading on Black Wednesday helped cement his stature on the stock exchange.
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Different movie but a similarly-inexplicable need for more money. I'm not sure if Spacey's character was supposed to be overleveraged or simply addicted to wealth. |
For all his success running a Wall Street casino, Madoff maintained a side gig:
an undocumented investment firm that never made a single stock trade. If you aren't familiar with a Ponzi scheme - you basically take investor money and convince them to never withdraw, say, by claiming they are getting a reliable 9% annual return.
In '92, the SEC found out about Madoff's investment advisory business and shut it down.
He managed to fake enough records to hide the Ponzi angle, but it's still not kosher to run an unregulated hedge fund. It wasn't a huge Ponzi at that point, so he was able to borrow his way out of the mess (again).
As you can imagine, he opened up shop once again.
His genius strategy? A two-leg option play. Not that there's anything wrong with covered calls and protective puts.
I wonder what premiums were like in the 90s.
The series doesn't look kindly on the SEC, the next chapter of the saga is when in 2000ish Harry Markopolos (the numbers guy at a firm that was considering doing business with Madoff) blows the whistle. Another investigation,
another case where SEC managed to not mind that Madoff was running yet another off-books hedge fund.
The Markopolos saga happened over many years, but it wasn't a bunch of wild claims. They started simply with, "these returns haven't been repeated by anyone in the industry" but had some concrete, verifiable observations like,
"Madoff claimed trades that exceeded the entire market's volume for a given option".
While the Ponzi operation may have been lost on the SEC, the
documentary indicates that it's pretty likely that one of Madoff's top four investors did catch on. Jeffry Picower made consistent withdrawls to the point that he made more money on the scam than even Madoff.
The scam required fake trades and fake account statements for clients, Madoff had a couple of coders on staff to cook the books and even create a phony DTCC interface for demos.
The documentary interviews
a few investors who were left holding the bag. They're all understandably unhappy about the scam, but otherwise pretty reasonable, "I should have done more research/diversified" and "well I had to move out of West Palm Beach, it sucks but it's not the end of the world".
Madoff's main gateway to European money, however, committed suicide.
The SEC didn't get him. The FBI didn't get him. The IRS didn't get him. The '08 market crash got him.
Enough clients needed to cash out from the imaginary $60B total account value that no amount of loans could bail him out.
The documentary drives home the numerous times (early 90s, early 00's, mid 00's) that the SEC was handed a smoking gun but chose to remain ignorant. Likewise, some of the investors they interview say that
they considered the lack of sanctions to be part of the reason they chose to invest. Mention is also given to JPMorgan who happily banked the billions in actual assets without asking questions.
The list
Madoff (2023) belongs in
my pantheon of investment films. It's a bit fluffy and watered-down, so I wouldn't claim it's among the best. Here they are in no particular order, I might categorize them in the future:
Future watches
I
ran across a
list of financial movies. It includes stuff I wouldn't consider in-scope for this list (e.g. The Wolf of Wall Street and Moneyball), but there are some titles I'll check out.
Update: There was another WSB post asking just this:
DiscoInError93 |
Rogue Trader (1999) - Dramatized recount of the Nick Leeson derivatives market blowup. Similar energy to The Big Short but a bit darker.
The Wall Street Code (2013) - Very insightful documentary on YouTube about high-frequency trading and algorithm-based analysis.
The Hummingbird Project (2018) - Drama about building fiber for HFT; a bit cheesy but entertaining.
Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room (2005) - Documentary about stock and accounting manipulation.
Panic: The Untold Story of the 2008 Financial Crisis (2018) - Documentary about how the Federal Reserve handled the 2008 collapse.
Too Big to Fail (2011) - Dramatized recount of how the Fed bailed out the Big Banks. Really good!
Quants: The Alchemists of Wall Street - Insightful documentary about quantitative trading.
If you can read, check out Flash Boys. It's by the same author as The Big Short, which is a pretty good book in its own right.
Edit: How could I forget Anton Kreil's mini-biopic 10 Secrets to Achieve Financial Success. This is honestly incredible and worth the watch.
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Illbert
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I guess Scott Adams got vaccinated and then said he regretted it? He's still alive as far as I can tell. |
The dudes on
Serious Trouble mentioned that
Scott Adams (of Dilbert) was threatening to sue Ben Garrison over the above cartoon. If you aren't familiar with Ben Garrison, he's a wingnut political cartoonist known for alt right views and labeling everything in his drawings. He hilariously walks the line between being hardcore antivax and having undying devotion to the president who claimed credit for the vaccines.
For his part, Scott Adams is well known for his incisive commentary on Silicon Valley and office culture long before the days of incubators and scrum masters and Mike Judge satires. I was reasonably familiar with the strip (and had desktop tearaway calendars) so
I thought I could say with authority that Adams sympathized with his brainy, honest protagonist. The work-averse Wally and incompetent Pointy-Haired Boss always seemed to be caricatures of officeplace evils rather than role models. So I was midly surprised in 2016 when
Cattle told me that Adams was a big fan of a particular presidential candidate that seemed to embody these caricatures. I expected that Adams, as a business owner, simply was another single-issue (taxes) voter. But
there was some nonsense about a 'talent stack' and other six sigma-sounding garbage.
Persuasiveness
I guess somewhere between my last daily Dilbert calendar and 2016, Adams decided to write serious books about personal development. Because he's a third-eschelon mensa wizard or something.
One of his big things is persuasion[TM]. Not persuasion like "toastmasters and empathy" but persuasion like "The Walrus and the Carpenter". Adams did a couple Reddit AMAs around this time, so in light of the hilarious antivax comic fight I took a quick trip down memory lane. I recall
he made some aggressive political predictions and I wanted to check in:
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/u/CritterJams
Does it concern you that the "Trump is a dementia-addled racist" filter predicts his behavior much more accurately than the "Master Persuader" theory you've been peddling for two years?
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/u/ScottAdamsSays
Did your filter predict a strong economy, peace with North Korea, excellent Supreme Court picks, and crushing ISIS? Mine did.
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I tried to get a North Korea tourist visa last year and they said no, what gives? Here are
a few more predictions from that post:
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Big gains with North Korea peace. Job gains at the lower end. Stocks might seesaw. China will agree to trade deals. U.S. will kill Chinese fentanyl dealers on Chinese soil.
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In 2020, President Trump might have the strongest economy in the history of human civilization and a Nobel Peace Prize for North Korea. Unless there is a big surprise, he beats anyone.
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Report card
A couple of these predictions partially worked out:
- "Crushing ISIS." He definitely didn't reverse the progress made against ISIS, though they're still around.
- "Excellent Supreme Court picks." I suppose that depends on your values. Or maybe it doesn't, since revered Supreme Court justices tend to enjoy bipartisan admiration.
- "China will agree to trade deals." Yes and no.
I guess Adams allowed himself to be
persuaded of some things that didn't really work out:
- "Peace with North Korea." There wasn't.
- "A Nobel Peace Prize." There wasn't.
- "He beats anyone in 2020." He didn't.
- "U.S. will kill Chinese fentanyl dealers on Chinese soil." We didn't.
Wait, back up one. The "U.S. will kill Chinese fentanyl dealers on Chinese soil." This seems like a relatively inauspicious claim in comparison to peace with North Korea and winning a trade war. But
when you think about this claim for just a moment it's tough to conclude that it does anything except demonstrate a severe detachment from reality. Was Adams expecting drone strikes on Chinese fentanyl dealers? Or the Chinese central government embracing a joint task force with a license to kill? It's one thing to buy the Korean peace charade, thinking China is going to relinquish its sovereignty to the US demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the world.
Here's the "strong economy" in two graphs (one fiscal, one monetary):
The S&P almost doubled!
Sort of like doubling your chips at the blackjack table after hitting the ATM eight times.
"My predictions don't have to be accurate because I convinced you of it"
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/u/aznhomig
Persuasion-wise, what would you say is the most impactful persuasion move Trump has done in his presidency thus far?
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/u/ScottAdamsSays
He sold the country on "fake news" being the normal, not the exception.
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Perhaps two decades of being cynical about office culture turned Adams into a nihilist. There's a big difference between saying "Trump sold people on 'fake news'" and saying "Trump enlightened us to CNN's lies".
Is Adams in some uber-libertarian endgame where he's saying that the truth is dead so you might as well join the propaganda machine?
Probably not, since so many claims (his, politicians', those of people who buy his book) can be so easily disproven. Or
maybe he has complete faith in the post-Harambe world of alternative facts. Maybe the final Dilbert strip will have Pointy-Haired Boss telling Dilbert through VR goggles, "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a loafer stamping on a human face - for ever."
But for real this is a parody or performance art, right?
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/u/tcedwardz
What are your thoughts on Donald Trump and Kanye West recently collaborating on political issues? Do you foresee Kanye running in 2020 and does he exhibit the same persuasion skills that Trump embodies?
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Whatever the deal is with Adams, I got a kick out of his beef with Garrison and I quite enjoyed
the dead-on prediction that Kanye would run in 2024 and has Master Persuader skills.
Shhhhh
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/u/yeahokqwerty
Do you think Elon musk is wrong to be so concerned about climate change? You've seemed to be not very concerned.
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/u/ScottAdamsSays
When I start my electric car company, I'll agree with Musk on climate change. Stockholders will expect it.
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Either by shutting up or by maxing out his controversy stats,
Elon isn't getting quite so much attention in 2023. 2022 ended with a bang though.
Dude's trying to create an electronic brain interface but his commentary on mRNA vaccines amounts to retweets of Facebook-tier memes.
Perhaps that's just apex persuasiveness as he tries to rebrand Twitter for a different crowd. Relatedly:
Business Insider |
Former President Donald Trump is preparing a Twitter comeback, with plans to drop an exclusivity agreement he has with his own platform, Truth Social, according to reports.
SEC filings show that Trump is currently obliged to wait six hours after posting on Truth Social before posting the same content on any other social media platform, an agreement that is up for renewal in June.
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Could it be? Is he going to do it? Twitter CEO Donald Trump?
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SCOTUS revisited
Back when the Dobbs and Bruen decisions came out,
I wondered if I was uber-naive to buy the line that the Supreme Court has historically been regarded as apolitical.
The Hill |
Americans remained steadfastly loyal to the high court for decades, Gibson said, embracing it even after the powder-keg Bush v. Gore decision of 2000, which decided an election.
But then, with Dobbs, the high court suffered "the largest decline in legitimacy that's ever been registered, through dozens and dozens of surveys using the same indicators," Gibson said. "I've never seen anything like it."
One Gallup poll, taken after someone leaked a draft of the Dobbs ruling, found that only 25 percent of the American public had confidence in the court, the lowest figure recorded in a half century of polling.
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Okay it wasn't just me, nonpartisan polling suggests
Americans once considered SCOTUS honorable much more commonly than today.
From the various news and interview snippets I've seen,
John Roberts seems insistent that he isn't presiding over the downfall of the apolitical judiciary. So while there are zero practical recourses to last year's decisions (because 2/3rds of congress and states = lol), at least we can take some comfort in knowing that Roberts will have to come to terms with his legacy.
Financial stuff from yesterday and today.
Hindenburg
Hindenburg Research |
Soon we will release a report on what we strongly suspect to be the largest corporate fraud in history.
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I enjoy a good Hindenburg post,
the Nikola one may well be the anthem of the SPAC boom (or
RTO take 2). The
Lordstown one became a
pandemic hobby for me. The
Draft Kings exposé made a less convincing case to buy puts, though largely for cynical reasons.
The Adani post has a little of each.
Hindenburg Research |
The 7 Listed Companies Of Adani Group Are 85%+ Overvalued Even If You Ignore Our Investigation And Take The Companies' Financials At Face Value
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The post starts with a pretty strong statement:
Adani has fundamentals that rival Tesla's golden age. Beyond that, there's a whole lot of "these dudes have criminal records and/or a history of fraud accuasations" - the kind of stuff that would keep me out of a stock but not convince me to open a short position.
A new Investopedia link
Investopedia |
Stock parking is the illegal practice of selling shares to another party with the understanding that the original owner will buy them back after a short time. The goal of stock parking is to conceal a stock's real ownership while maintaining the appearance of regulatory compliance.
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The most voluminuous and Hindenburg-like portion of the post is about
alleged stock parking on Adani's part. I wasn't sure what benefit there would be to owning more of a grossly-overvalued stock than what was on paper.
Hindenburg Research |
Publicly listed companies in India are subject to rules that require all promoter holdings (known as insider holdings in the U.S.) to be disclosed. Rules also require that listed companies have at least 25% of the float held by non-promoters in order to mitigate manipulation and insider trading. 4 of Adani's listed companies are on the brink of the delisting threshold due to high promoter ownership.
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I guess the allegation is that
the stock became grossly overvalued by having a tiny float.
Is there a put bandwagon?
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/u/Bondrip
INDA - from looking at their holdings Adani companies make up about 5.2% of this etf's total portfolio. Also may rattle other Indian companies maybe
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As of this writing, INDA is +0.19% in after hours.
Maybe
Burry did another Tweet-and-delete. It wasn't obvious from the image, but
those years say 2000, 2001, and 2002 (with SPX and the 50/100/200-day moving average). The dd is in the comments:
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Oh, I got this.
50, 100, and 200 day simple moving averages on the S and P 500, circa 2001.
He is highlighting a crossover (50 crossing 100, bullish) and an almost crossover, 50 and the 200 (golden cross that mainstream financial media has an orgasm over once in a while, bullish)... so two typically bullish signals that ultimately failed and led to a nice horrific sell off.
That scenario is playing out in real time as we speak, with those crossovers already in play and the golden cross coming up next.
It is pretty cryptic if you don't know much about TA I suppose.
SOURCE: TA nerd since 2000.
I wouldn't read much into it, because, as he states... "maybe". Maybe it happens again, maybe it doesn't.
Flip a godamn quarter and make your bets.
EDIT: Nerd TA statistical gobblegook for those that actually read this: The dump he is referring to set the S and P back an additional 30%+.
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Ah. Hmm. I'm not a technicals guy but I kind of feel like
that dip on the left side of the circle could be considered the result of a macro event. Even if you think the market bounced back and continued doing its thing in spite of the permanent changes to geopolitics, the SMAs themselves were distorted in a way that didn't happen in 2023.
Maybe
not all the genres, but FPS, 4X, tabletop, and a meme game are a good sampling.
Spacivilization (Stellaris)
Since
/r/stellaris is often on Reddit's default front page with funny posts, I thought I'd give it a go (Steam sale).
Civ made #3 on my all-time list and Stellaris seemed to have many of the same 4X elements. Long ago I played
Sins of a Solar Empire and appreciated the scale of the game while feeling it largely suffered under its own weight for playability.
There are
a bunch of unique civilizations in the main game and lots more available via DLC. Similar to Civ, each faction has default strengths and preferred government policies.
The game creation screen is also familiar. I went with
a small galaxy to minimize clicking.
Defense comes in the form of starships, in Stellaris you build a variety of (tech-gated) warships and assign them to fleets. Fleets can have rules of engagement, admirals, and user-defined ship designs (shields vs hull and a variety of weapon types).
Cobbling together ship designs is awesome though I wonder how useful it is (unless you know you have a primary opponent whose ships are weak to specific weapons).
Stellaris has
random narrative events that often provide resource rewards or objectives. Since 4X games are basically a sandbox, it's neat to have narrative elements (that are sometimes funny or cultural references). Alas, I found that they pop up far too frequently. They're not a nuisance, they just feel more like an income source than a neat find.
In Civ II, the dominant strategy was to build cities every fourth-ish tile. So the clicks per turn got really bad. Subsequent games penalized overdevelopment/overpopulation by increasing city size and having science and culture output normalized by population.
Stellaris provides its own natural growth threshold by limiting the number of habitable planets. And since Stellaris has aliens, everyone has their own suite of environment needs and technology to terraform inhospitable planets.
Having just a handful of habitable colonies means you don't have too many planet management screens. But planet management is important to keeping your colonies happy and growing.
The Stellaris galaxy has some neat scenery.
First contact in Stellaris is kind of like Civ except that
sometimes you find space whales or primitive civilizations.
Combat is pretty. From a distance you see lasers and contrails, you can zoom in and watch ships chase each other in circles.
The tactics are all left to the game, user input amounts to fleet size and makeup.
"Wait a tic,
is this game turn-based or real time?" It's real time with frequent/automatic pauses. It works. The pausing is necessary since there's so much to read and click. Nondiscrete time allows for a more fluid pipeline of events.
Stellaris has the usual 4x elements of
trade, diplomacy, and denouncing frenemies.
Final thoughts
Since it's no longer xmas break, I'm not sure when I'll get a chance to resume my game (or start a new one now that I have some idea of what's going on). Though I have limited seat time,
I suspect Stellaris has the "4x doldum" period where in the mid-game you are trying to simultaneously:
- Expand as much as possible because late-game settlements are unproductive and strategic liabilities.
- Race down the tech tree so you're not throwing spears at tanks when you no longer have things to research.
- Avoid becoming mired in war, since an uninvolved civilization will surely win.
This was pretty common in Civ and Sins. It's an un-fun period that sometimes doesn't happen but often does.
Gunfire
The lolbaters squad played some Gunfire.
Gloom
A Party Has No Name killed a challenging elder drake and a bunch of squishy vermlings.
Come See My Hole
The lolbaters meme game this xmas was Come See My Hole.
Wonderlands mop-up
Me and J finished the
Wonderlands sidequests and a few rounds of the Chaos Chamber. My favorite part was how visibly angry J became with the "The Ditcher" questline. He's a huge Witcher fan and practically ragequit over the Wonderlands parody character being written as a smug a-hole.
Next
We grabbed ESO and a few other games, but have moved to The Ascent (more on this in another post). I did watch a quick ESO vid, here are my notes:
- There are two recruitable NPC companions (per player?) that allow solo players and small squads access to larger dungeons.
- Gear drops scale to your level, so wait for max level to be overly concerned with gear.
- Do logs of crafting and disassembly to grind those levels.
- Factions only matter for PvP.
Elden Ring/Amogus/Moment of Zen
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Source. From OP: "Has anyone noticed this? This is the shape you get when you draw it. Future dlc location?" |
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Goatse: gen x and millennials
Dickbutt: millennials and gen z
Among Us s: The future is now old man.
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Hey, y'all, yeah, I like this bridge you got. You know, this reminds me my buddy Keith and I were once on a bridge just like this, man. Well, kinda, I mean, I was on the bridge and Keith was sure he could jump the river without the bridge, so I raised the bridge and well... Did you know cars can float? I mean, for a little while at least... |
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This is a fantasy football post. Tldr:
won one league, missed playoffs in the other, there was some banter.
Password is Taco
Despite having Dalvin Cook, Josh Jacobs, Ezekiel Elliot, and Cam Akers, I
missed the playoffs in Password is Taco. Third in PF, last in consistency.
Medieval Gridiron
My PF also looked good in Medieval Gridiron and was able to convert it to a trophy.
Sants was missing most of his stars so it wasn't really fair, even with the Bills cancellation. Other than benching JuJu,
my late-season smart moves were getting Akers and the Jags off the wire. I also picked up Allgeier to prevent Santos (who had no waiver money left) from getting him.
Bantz from Sunday night
Before the Bills-Bengals game:
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Sants
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That time of the year
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I don't understand these Android jokes
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Zac
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Chris
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Self-uninstall is commonly the highest tier ragequit.
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Did Santos go back to the store and return Fantasy Football?
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Wait, wait, Chris hasn't even played his whole team yet
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Dan
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Stats guy, what is this biggest MOV for a championship final?
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Quick, someone photoshop Santos's face on here
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[Posts unflattering 'shop]
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Poor sportsmanship from the champ, but well played
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Chris
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Champ-elect. The LMs still have to certify the result.
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That's scheduled for January 6th, I assume?
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The LM note
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One Trade Too Many
It's all over and Chris is d'champion once more. Numbero Uno, if you will. He jumped out to a 6-1 record, putting to shame the ESPN and Fantasy Pros rankings (7th and 10th respectively). Josh Allen was unstoppable early on, Josh Jacobs was the comeback player of the year, and as usual Kelce was in a category of his own. With his bye week locked, he stumbled into the playoffs with two games under 80, but rebounded when it mattered averaging 122.
The playoff weeks were particularly odd scoring this year. In the Championship game Chris got 4.3 from Allen+Kelce, compared to 22.3 from Aker+JagsD! Santos bench was filled with all-stars (Hurts, Hopkins, Henry). His highest scoring player? Jared-fucking-Goff.
It's crazy and unpredictable, but that's how it goes. Chris joins the elite squad with multiple championships (Brian, Ty, Dan, JR, and maybe Kevin if we count pre-espn). Santos joins an even more elite squad of losing 4 times in the championship game ever the bridesmaid. Ty slid in 3rd for his 4th podium finish in 6 years (after not even getting to the playoffs in the first 7).
We'll see you next year. Until then, let's all think about how Santos traded CMC (27.3 points in wk17) for Henry (0), leaving him to play Foreman (3.5), and lose by only 14.4.
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Allen was my keeper, I will miss him next year. For finishing the #2 RB Jacobs was very boom/bust, but I got him a little later than ADP.
Kelce is my perennial WAR pick and, well:
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Travis Kelce
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218
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George Kittle
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144
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Taysom Hill
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142
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T.J. Hockenson
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133
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Mark Andrews
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123
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Even Engram
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107
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Cole Kmet
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99
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Juwan Johnson
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94
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Tangential
Look, I haven't followed baseball since the strike and I hate all those sites that steal content from the Jalponiks and Reddits of the world. But
here is some baseball content stolen from Reddit cause, like, it was funny and I learned cool A's facts.
Also, funny comments deserve recognition, looking at you /u/Ted_Dongelman. I just wish the /r/baseball crowd had set up their avatars so the quotes below didn't look so lifeless. (I re-scrape every time I generate the page, so maybe in the future they will populate).
Ber?
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/u/draculajones
No Cubs logo designer had actually seen a bear until 1994. Love the nips on #1.
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Sure, they aren't the most bearlike bears, but they strangely seem to capture the national zeitgeist:
- [1934] In the depths of the Great Depression, King Kong bear terrorizes NYC/Wall Street.
- [1942] Angry honey badger bear shows up just after Pearl Harbor.
- [1950] Postwar bear has seen some shit.
Dan Snyder
I'm not going to post the cropped Braves logo, it's plenty visible at the top of this post. Instead, here's the NFL version.
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The braves one looks like it came out of a racism competition
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You're the worst pirate I've ever heard of
Before italics and boldface were a thing, people used quotation marks for emphasis. Or something, all I know is that it's hilarious that
they put quotes around "The Pirates".
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/u/kshump
Just missing the apostrophe - "The Pirate's".
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... and then blame autocorrect.
The dapper pachyderm
Near and dear to my 12-year old heart.
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/u/DecoyOne
The only problem with the A's logo is its unreasonably cool
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/u/Ted_Dongelman
That elephant picks up his date in his Trans Am and honks instead of walking up to the door to greet her.
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That Oakland one is cool is hell. It also looks like the Phillies bird (why?) is scolding the Cub for being upset at the Pirates using quotes in their name.
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/u/justbenj
We want an elephant with attitude. He's edgy, he's in your face. You've heard the expression "let's get busy?" This is an elephant who gets biz-zay, consistently and thoroughly.
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Ref.
Wikipedia hole
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The A's played in Shibe Park (later named Connie Mack Stadium). Shibe, first name escapes me, wanna say Ben, was an early owner of the A's.
Shibe owned an elephant.
His elephant became the team mascot.
The Philadelphia A's are the coolest team in sports. Bets team in baseball from 1910 to 1930. 6 World Series titles in 20 years. Old heads in Philly (ex. My grandparents) are still fans of the A's.
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